The Christ We Share is More Important than the Politics We Don’t (w/ Mark Dever)

by | Feb 20, 2019

FYI: This episode was originally recorded August 2018. Given that we pushed season three back to 2019, we had it scheduled to release in Spring 2019.

Know this, my beloved brothers: let every person be quick to hear, slow to speak, slow to anger; for the anger of man does not produce the righteousness of God.”

James 1:19-20

Episode Overview: 

In this episode, Trillia Newbell and Isaac Adams sit with Mark Dever, Pastor of Capitol Hill Baptist Church in Washington D.C. The three of them discuss interracial dating, single-issue voting and racial divisions in churches, the American flag in worship gatherings, and other topics as they talk about the importance of understanding and remembering.

The Lord Jesus Christ told us to take his Supper in remembrance of him (1 Cor. 11:24). As Christians, memory is no mere thing. Dever, who grew up in what was formerly a slave-hold state, speaks to why knowing history is so important. Whether it’s the history of George Liele, the first American missionary, or the history of the slave trade ending in the British Empire, or the personal history of a friend, Dever maintains that, “It’s very hard to have a meaningful conversation about race and American history if you’ve not studied much about it.”

As the last two episodes of Season 3 have taken place in Africa, “the continent of lament,” as Dever refers to it—join Isaac, Trillia, and Mark as they discuss race, politics, and the local church in the United States.

 

Links & Show Notes:

11:45 — “Why do you think working hard to not oppose either party is the best gospel strategy?” 
14:00 — Education [on race] is necessary but insufficient. 
22:30 — The American flag in our worship gatherings? 
32:11 — Prayer

  • In this episode we referred to our episodes in Africa. Listen to the episode with a Zambian Pastor or a Kenyan Pastor. For more on the importance of American History in the race conversation, check out the episode with Matt Hall.
  • Produced by Josh Deng

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