Podcast Episodes
Podcast episodes taking racial struggles to the throne of grace, United? We Pray is a ministry devoted to praying about racial strife—especially between Christians.

My Great-Grandfather Sold Slaves (w/ Saidi Chishimba)
Episode Overview: "And they sat with him on the ground seven days and seven nights, and no one spoke a word to him, for they saw that his suffering was very great." Job 2:13 Come hear a man reckon with the hard history of his lineage: His family sold slaves. To kick...

What’s Changed & What’s the Same
Episode Overview: “Satan dreads nothing but prayer. His one concern is to keep the saints from praying. He fears nothing from prayerless studies, prayerless work, prayerless religion. He laughs at our toil, he mocks our wisdom, but he trembles when we pray.” - Samuel...

A Theology of Racial Reconciliation for Families (W/ Jarvis Williams)
“Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the...

Season 2 Finale: Pray Without What?
“Rejoice always, pray without ceasing, give thanks in all circumstances; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.” - 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18 Episode Overview: In the Season 2 Finale, Trillia and Isaac reflect upon God’s grace throughout another season of...


What About The Other “Other”? More Than A Black/White Conversation (w/ Duke Kwon)
“The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector.” - Luke 18:11 Episode Overview: Should our conversations about race and the church only be black and...


Stopping By Ephesus: Reflections 50 Years After MLK Jr.’s Assassination (w/ John Perkins)
“Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.” - Matthew 6:10 Episode Overview: Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated on April 4, 1968 in Memphis, Tennessee. Fifty years later to the day, Isaac Adams sat with Dr. John Perkins, an 87-year-old...


20 Years Later: Why Are Evangelicals (Still) Divided by Faith? (w/ Michael Emerson)
. "Know this, my beloved brothers: let every person be quick to hear, slow to speak, slow to anger." James 1:19 Episode Overview In this episode, Trillia Newbell and Isaac Adams talk with Michael Emerson, one of the authors of the seminal work, Divided by Faith....


Colorblindness: What If I Don’t See You As My Black Friend?
"After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands."...



What’s The Goal Of Racial Reconciliation?
“Let love be genuine. Abhor what is evil; hold fast to what is good.” - Romans 13:9 Episode Overview: In this episode, Trillia and Isaac talk and pray about the goal of racial reconciliation. Why is it helpful or unhelpful? What isn’t the goal of racial...


Interracial Marriages: One Flesh but Two Families? (w/ SharDavia Walker)
Episode Overview: “What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.” - Mark 10:9 In the opening to season two, Trillia Newbell and Isaac Adams talk and pray with SharDavia Walker about interracial marriages—the beauty of them and the difficulty of them...